(Updated) What is Russia’s Game in Syria? Stephen Walt
by Matthew Payne on June 19, 201214 comments
UPDATE to the UPDATE: And that’s what I get for linking to the Jerusalem Post!–which is now retracting the story of the Iran/Chinese/Russian wargames, which the Chinese and Russians are both dismissing as a provocation. I’m sorry. Even though the Post is blaming the Iranians, I made the mistake of thinking it was a reputable paper which would have at least contacted the Russians and Chinese before running the story. I will not make that mistake in the future dear readers. The Russians are also denying that they are sending naval ships to Syria with weapons and troops. So the whole story here may simply be built on a tissue of insinuations and misdirection. It is hard to figure out exactly what Russia is doing versus what Western intelligence officials are claiming it is doing (it seems wrongly–the Russians have nothing to gain by transparent lies and big amphibuous landing ships showing up at Tartus would be hard to hide), although the Kremlin does admit to sending sophisticated missile systems to Syria. The Russian media is claiming the skullduggery is coming from Washington, which is seen as arranging Saudi and Qatari arms shipments for the rebels, while provoking Syria’s Kurds, to this point quiet, to rise. There is little doubt that the Obama administration has done nothing to stop the former, though I can’t see it wanting the latter, what with Turkish sensitivity on matters Kurdish being quite pronounced. At any rate, all this seems clear as mud at the moment.
UPDATE(6/19): The plot thickens. The MV Alaed has apparently turned back towards Russia with its shipment of repaired Syrian attack helicopters after a British shipping insurer pulled its insurance. Allegedly. The ship has also turned off its automatic identification system and is not presently being shadowed, so who knows? At any rate, the Alaed might have been a poker chip in Putin’s negotiations with Obama but if so, those negotiations have not appeared to go very well. Putin and Obama put out a very tepid statement on “ending violence” in Syria, which is a good deal short of Russian support for anti-Syrian sanctions in the UN or “regime-change.” Reports describe the scene of the post Obama/Putin summit:
There was little sign of rapprochment at Los Cabos, with Obama describing the discussion as ‘candid’, diplomatic-speak for disagreement. Their body language was poor too, with no smiles and little eye contact between the two in the short period in which journalists were invited in.
In an interesting development, Iran is now claiming there will be large-scale “war games” with Iranian, Chinese and Russian participation later on this month.
ORIGINAL STORY (6/18): So, there is quite a bit of confusion on what is Putin’s game in Syria and as usual the cogent Stephen Walt of Foreign Policy has same sage words:
On Syria: As many have feared, the violence continues to intensify and prospects for a negotiated solution appear increasingly bleak. The stalemate between the regime and the opposition will increase pressure for a more forceful international response, but the case for military intervention remains weak. Not because anybody condones the Assad regime’s behavior, but simply because outside intervention could easily make things worse. Regrettably, not every foreign policy challenge has a ready solution, and sometimes “standing there” is still better than “doing something.”
Russia continues to be Assad’s primary protector, and it will be interesting to see if Obama and Putin can make any progress toward agreement during their meeting at the G20 summit. As I’ve written previously, Russia is the key to a political settlement, but only if a way can be found to preserve Russian interests and give them lots of credit for helping resolve the crisis. Russia’s amoral stance has elicited a lot of condemnation thus far, but we shouldn’t be surprised or overly outraged by what Moscow is doing. Syria is Russia’s only remaining Middle East client and Russia is simply trying to protect its own position there. More broadly, Russia has long sought to prevent the emergence of a world order dominated by the United States and its allies — i.e., one where Washington gets to decide who governs in key regions — and backing Assad is one way for Russia to remind everyone that Washington isn’t all-powerful. I suspect Putin isn’t happy about what Assad is doing, just as the Obama administration wasn’t happy about the Saudi-backed crackdown in Bahrain. But when strategic interests are involved, moral niceties tend to be overlooked.
That last line could be the operating code of Russian foreign policy since, oh, about 978 A.D.
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14 comments
Mark on June 18, 2012 at 7:48 pm. #
lol. do you not realize it’s the united states funding proxy forces within syria—just as they did in libya; with the intention of using nato to destroy the country & reinstall their pro-u.s. obedient despot?
Matthew on June 19, 2012 at 7:11 am. #
LOL? I’m sure I’d love to see the humor in this situation, but I guess I just can’t see anything but the body count at the moment. Mark, I’m not pretending to be some sort of expert on Syria and its civil war (I am on Russia) but I think Walt, who is such an expert, assumed your point with his phrase, “More broadly, Russia has long sought to prevent the emergence of a world order dominated by the United States and its allies.” You are assuming that because I note one great power is fishing in troubled waters I don’t see others doing so as well. And btw, from what I’ve seen the Syrian case is not similar to Libya in the sense that NATO is far more ambivalent, the rebels are mainly being armed by the Saudis and Qatari and the former Assad ally (and NATO member), Turkey, is quite involved in military intervention itself. Yes, Washington is playing a malign hand in the crisis by insisting on regime change (the image of Gaddhafi dead in a ditch or the ethnic cleansing of Baghdad has had an educative effect on both the Assads and the Alawites), but the world is not reducible to Washington cooking up plots and then them playing out. LOL or not LOL, a Russian intervention would be a big deal, especially if they are resupplying Syria with ground attack helicopters.
Mark on June 19, 2012 at 4:08 pm. #
All you need to understand is this: the current Syrian regime has been supportive for years of Palestine’s cause and Lebannon’s cause. They have stood strong in resistance to the U.S. and Israel.
Hmmmmm how does this work?!
Mark on June 19, 2012 at 4:30 pm. #
Listen to Noam Chomsky.
Matthew on June 19, 2012 at 4:40 pm. #
Actually, Mark, this doesn’t work. It is fairly obvious the Israelis, for instance, like the Alawite-dominated Assad regime (at least compared to the alternatives), as they have been weak and cautious. The Golan border has been one of the most quiet in decades and the Syrians even acquiesce to have their nuclear facilities bombed. As for Washington,my guess is they would love a compliant and also weak general of some sort. Especially given the Salafists and Muslim Brotherhood seem to dominate the rebellion. There’s a reason there’s been a lot of harumphing about doing what Sen. McCain wants to do (arm the rebellions and create a safe haven). I don’t have a magic decoder ring here and have only tried to add some commentary on the Russian angle–but, you know Mark, your magic decoder ring might be out of focus here as well.
Nick Glossop on June 19, 2012 at 8:14 pm. #
IMHO it is a huge mistake to allow justifiable suspicion of American and NATO power motives to put you in the position of mouthing apologetics for a Baathist/Nazi/religious minority/family dynasty tyranny on account of its single supposed virtue – making anti-Zionist noises (and on the dubious assumption that it does so in good faith), particularly as that regime shows its recidivist tendency to slaughter swathes of its restive citizenry. To do so is not solidarity, it is myopia, and an example of bedfellows beyond strange to profoundly ill-advised.
If it was wrong for the US to render persons for torture to the Syrian Baathists, are not those Syrian Baathists also culpable for their part of the deal? Evil comes in many colors – good is a much rarer sight. Don’t shake hands with your enemy’s enemy if he is also a fiend.
Andrew Loewen on June 20, 2012 at 8:45 am. #
Yeah. Mark seems to express a 2-dimensional kneejerk “anti-imperialism” that’s far too common. Interestingly, the venerable Max Blumenthal just today jumped ship from the Al Ahkbar publication on this issue.
In the end, Assad will be remembered as an authoritarian tyrant whose regime represented little more than the interests of a rich neoliberal business class and a fascistic security apparatus. Those who have thrown their intellectual weight behind his campaign of brutality have cast the sincerity of their commitment to popular struggle and anti-imperial resistance into serious doubt. By denying the Syrian people the right to revolution while supporting the Palestinian struggle, they are no less hypocritical than the Zionists who cynically celebrate the Syrian uprising while seeking to crush any iteration of Palestinian resistance. In my opinion, the right to resist tyranny is indivisible and universal. It can be denied to no one.
http://maxblumenthal.com/tag/bashar-assad/
Mark on June 21, 2012 at 9:57 pm. #
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31454
I am more inclined to Chomsky, Chossudovsky, Greenwald and Scahill’s opinions than yours.
It may become useful to your readers if you read some contemporary Chomsky on the United States/Israel relationship to the middle-east.
Matthew on June 22, 2012 at 12:00 am. #
Fair enough, Mark. Fair enough. But condescend much? Will admit I haven’t read much Chomsky since Failed States, but I regularly catch his interviews when possible (while I respect Greenwald and Scahill’s opinions as well). While I don’t agree with Chomsky on all things–I would have thought my scorn for Western-style “humanitarian interventionism” would have fit well Chomsky’s low opinion of “new military humanists” he first detailed in his critique of the Kosovo War. But, anyway, opinions differ–and that’s a good thing.
Mark on June 22, 2012 at 12:38 am. #
Google ‘C.I.A. Syria’ under news or see today’s Democracy Now. It’s what was done inside Libya last year.
Matthew on June 22, 2012 at 8:01 am. #
Yeah, I know. I wrote about that in yesterday’s post. I’m beginning to think “my readers,” Mark, do not include you!
Andrew Loewen on June 22, 2012 at 11:25 am. #
Ha ha.
Over the years I’ve noticed there’s a certain kind of Chomsky reader–the newly radicalized freshman you could say–who tends to be very brash and unthoughtful. I’ve always said that if one seeks not simply to know things, but to think about and understand them, one must supplement dear old Noam with many others. But for some, Chomsky has the master key to reality itself, which begins and ends with the sum total of all the facts in the world. Chomsky’s model of social change is quite naive in fact, as he believes all that’s necessary is to get the right facts out to people, since virtue and good will are hardwired into the human brain.
Nick Glossop on June 22, 2012 at 11:51 am. #
Read Space Moose!
Nick Glossop on June 22, 2012 at 2:02 pm. #
Blumenthal speaks, further, to the issue:
Now, in my view, it’s a ridiculous contention to make that Assad is a legitimate anti-imperialist figure. Just because there are Western imperial designs on Syria doesn’t make him a freedom fighter. It doesn’t make him a legitimate anti-imperial figure. He’s always being a self-interested autocrat. His regime has in fact offered negotiations with Israel with no preconditions. They allowed the U.S. to render terror suspects, including those who appeared to be completely innocent, to Syria for torture.
But knowing Syria’s history with Palestine, for example, invading Lebanon to crush the Palestinian national struggle taking place in cooperation with the Lebanese left, besieging the Tel al-Zaatar camp and eventually massacring its inhabitants with the approval of the United States, this is Syria’s history, and it’s not a history of standing in solidarity with Palestinians, necessarily. It’s a history of acting in its own self-interest, as any dictatorial regime or as any state does.